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lirvilas
2nd Jun 2016, 10:00 AM

And there you go... I was wondering when that damn photo was going to pop up again.

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Centcomm
2nd Jun 2016, 10:10 AM

oh my.. this does not look good.

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lirvilas
2nd Jun 2016, 11:27 AM

Tona, I don't think "double envelopment" means what you think it does...

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Centcomm
3rd Jun 2016, 4:49 AM

thats what i was thinking ..

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Milk
2nd Jun 2016, 10:15 AM

That's a really well proportioned hand! I don't know why that excites me...but it does! :D

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lirvilas
2nd Jun 2016, 10:51 AM

I'm finally making that stupid left hand of mine earn its keep... with mirror flip capabilities in Manga Studio, it can play stunt double to the real star of the show.

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Rd Ashes
2nd Jun 2016, 11:25 AM

HA! I use my own hands all of the time too.
I even have a little mirror stuck up on the wall above my drawing tablet so that I can reference facial expressions.

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lirvilas
2nd Jun 2016, 10:29 PM

Beware, RD. If I have to go all Highlander on you to steal your skillz I will.

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sigpig
2nd Jun 2016, 11:38 PM

Lirv, would that left hand be "The Stranger"?

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lirvilas
3rd Jun 2016, 5:54 AM

oh yeah I totally walked into that one

point: sigpig

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ProfEtheric
2nd Jun 2016, 11:17 AM

I have to wonder how long that dang photo is going to be around. I would think its days are numbered at this point.

A brief history of the photo:
1 2 (look, it's whole!) 3 4 5 6 (NSFW)

...which leads us to this page! :)

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anonymous coward
2nd Jun 2016, 12:29 PM

This photograph has survived and traveled a very twisted path to arrive in this place the way it has. Are you sure it isn't some kind of gremlin or demon in an inconspicuous, inanimate form trying to set up and arrange the coming mess?

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ProfEtheric
2nd Jun 2016, 12:36 PM

lirv would never cop to such mystical magicness. Personally, I think it very much IS something like that - or at least mystically charged.

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lirvilas
2nd Jun 2016, 12:53 PM

"Sometimes life takes us strange places."

-State Representative Tona Zehm, UW Eau Claire commencement ceremony, May 2018

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ProfEtheric
2nd Jun 2016, 1:28 PM

Don't tease.

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lirvilas
2nd Jun 2016, 10:28 PM

Says the man in love with Tona.

Sorry, Prof, she likes her men and [redacted] clean shaven.

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ProfEtheric
5th Jul 2016, 5:13 PM

So THAT'S why her marriage failed...

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Nef
3rd Jun 2016, 2:42 AM

\
Do you have a GPS chip on this picture, or some informants that tell you when it is sighted somewhere?
Otherwise, sounds like a lot of work for one comment ;)

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lirvilas
3rd Jun 2016, 5:47 AM

@Nef: That's just Prof... sometimes it seems like that dude is in my archives more than I am. I'm waiting for the day where he catches me in a major discontinuity.

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ProfEtheric
5th Jul 2016, 5:17 PM

Nef, long continuity interests me. Plus, one day long ago, lirv press-ganged my reporter. And other characters. So I want to see what this side of the shared world looks like (and possibly return the favor one day).

When my insomnia kicks in, I tend to reread webcomics.

These things are related.

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lirvilas
5th Jul 2016, 7:00 PM

Your insomnia and webcomics? Ugh, that's a rough hand to be dealt.

Me, I'm trying to do too much. When I get my 5-6 hours it's lights out in 1-5 minutes tops.

@Nef: But yeah, crank some more damn pages... I steal liberally from Prof, but that doesn't mean I can't or won't steal from other people who have inspirational characters (e.g. Spelledeg).

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Rd Ashes
2nd Jun 2016, 11:23 AM

Well played Tona.
NOW what's she gonna do?

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lirvilas
2nd Jun 2016, 3:50 PM

ACES ARE WILD

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anonymous coward
2nd Jun 2016, 12:27 PM

This is going to end with emergency services called to the scene, isn't it? Tona, and Eric, and the entire overarmed crew of MSV all focused on one place can't be good for the odds of explosions *not* happening.

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lirvilas
2nd Jun 2016, 3:03 PM

You don't know the half of it... Prof's characters haven't made their full presence known.

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HeSerpenty
2nd Jun 2016, 1:28 PM

This might sound like a weird comment............... but I love how you shaded that close up hand! Like.. how there is soft shades on the outside then the harder ones in the middle. It looks awesome!
Overall great page in general!

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lirvilas
2nd Jun 2016, 10:26 PM

The number one best most awesome totally rad thing that revzet taught me was to not be afraid of big stretches of skin.

Without shading, skin is just an idea, a color, a place on a map.

With shading, skin is delicious.

Go look at RD Ashes's work if you don't believe me.

But yeah, that cast shadow was kinda a random development; I'm glad to see that it worked out!

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Stever
2nd Jun 2016, 9:41 PM

Heh... Some photos are like a bad penny. ;D

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lirvilas
2nd Jun 2016, 10:22 PM

cough cough facebook

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MadJak91
2nd Jun 2016, 11:05 PM

Good to see they took her. So she can hopefully stab Mr. Macrc...
I mean they could have just take the photo and destroy it like when dudes take a camera, destroy the film and say: "You do not have anything of that sort, sir."

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sigpig
2nd Jun 2016, 11:45 PM

Is that common in your country, Jak?

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anonymous coward
3rd Jun 2016, 4:07 AM

This is typical when security catches paparazzi all around the world: That's taking photos of a person without permission, and it's usually happening on private property too! Professional thugs around the world like cops and bodyguards usually don't need any more justification or excuse to fix it with a bit of casual violence than that. The habit carries over when confronted with other sorts of shitheads, troublemakers and assorted riffraff annoying the elite.

Here's a better question: Can you name a single country where that doesn't happen? I can't offhand, but I admit I'm not too familiar with policing and security practices in Scandinavia.

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MadJak91
3rd Jun 2016, 6:42 AM

Eff. The place I am at right now has crappy connection and I lost my comment so here is a "short" version :(

Part of what I was talking about is what Air Conditioner explained in his comment.
However, this happened here from what I know. With some pretty nasty case I do not really remember because I was a kid. And I think it might have happened again. I do not really dig in our legal system but as far as I know, visual and audio recordings do not stand at court as proof so destroying them like that and saying they never existed is probably ""fine"" (yes, I think it is totally dumb and do not take this 100%).

There were two Czech tourists who took pictures of a military complex in Greece for their video game and got their stuff destroyed in place. Ya, this does not compare but again, I would say MSV could be capable of that.

LMAO at Scandinavia. That is like a flipped flag bit of corruption compared to here. Thanks but alas.
LMAO at the burger. I copied that and will use it when someone asks how is it here. Although not Big Mac. I dislike the mustard in it. Royal + Cheeseburger cover the same area.

That photo caused too much dumb stuff but if Tona is going to use it and rub it in everyone's face then good. At this point I trust only her and she is the only person in this work who has any right to do anything. Or deserve.
I also dig that red work dress because reasons.
You also lied because you said no more expressions like the last panel but it is adorable so I will forgive you.

Comment quota used up because I might not be here :/

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lirvilas
3rd Jun 2016, 5:53 AM

@MJ: My usual disclaimer--I already plotted this out before your comment. But yeah, point stands--maybe someone should just shred that stupid relic already.

@Sigpig: They used to do that with certain United States "strategic assets" when they were pierside.

@AC: MadJak's in Slovakia, where they'll rip a Big Mac out of your hands, eat it in front of your face, and then tell you it "never existed" as they wipe the ketchup off their beards and I wouldn't assume that their state security apparatus is anywhere close to Central Asian-bad. Yeah, spies gonna be spies, but there are some countries where your chance of winding up in a dumpster are significantly higher than others.

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anonymous coward
3rd Jun 2016, 12:52 PM

I am Air Conditioning today? Huh, maybe I'm being too noisy.

Also, spoiler alert, there are no bright-white heroes with a clear moral mandate in this work. Tona may not mean ill to anyone in particular (besides folks threatening her family), but she's only a hero in the classical Greek sense.

And yeah, there are many countries which I will not do business in for reasons. Slovakia's kinda borderline, just shy of tolerable, last I checked.

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MadJak91
5th Jun 2016, 12:51 AM

I actually have allergies from air conditioning so I avoid it if possible.
;)
:D

Seriously now. My time is limited right now and you are sniping at me on multiple comics but at least here.
You are a year and more late with that "spoiler alert".
Yeah, it is mostly the situation with her mom but if anything, that is enough in my opinion. And a cascade of unfortunate events. The rest does not have as much right to whine because they CHOSE most of that or are in a position that attracts trouble.

Most of my countrymen would immediately dislike Tona just for the fact she was a soldier. Soldier here means you are a psycho who wants killing as their paid job. Although most of these people then turn around and praise REDACTED for bombing REDACTED.
I try to respect soldiers. There is also that page which is hidden now which made me think a lot a year back and illustrates certain points very clearly in a very minimal way.

The only thing I know about my cousin in the US is that she became a soldier and sent a letter saying she hopes to kick some REDACTED ass. The only thing I will know for the rest of my life probably. Still not judging every soldier.

Tona is living under conditions that make a lot of people take a gun. She did not. More like guns were pointed at her. How is that fair?

Well, you can at least sell cars here if you want to.
Also, here is an exclusive preview of a plushy pink fish I bought LMAO :D

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steveha
3rd Jun 2016, 3:28 PM

lirvilas, I know you are interested in drones and the future of military operations. There is now a small drone that carries a Glock 26. This is a real thing in the world now.

It raises an interesting grey area. It is not itself a firearm, nor does it contain one. But if you put the right one inside it, it can fire 5 shots in 2 seconds by pulling the trigger quickly, not completely unlike a full-auto firearm.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a20924/dogo-glock/

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lirvilas
3rd Jun 2016, 5:59 PM

Apparently I cannot retire to a heavily armed compound in [redacted] soon enough.

Here's SteveHA's BBCode enabled link.

I wonder how long it's going to be before these machines are used against people, even really nasty people.

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anonymous coward
4th Jun 2016, 6:44 AM

The earliest examples of electronically guided model aircraft were hydrogen-filled model airships of the late 19th century. They were flown as a music hall act around theater auditoriums using a basic form of spark-emitted radio signal.

Brief reply: What makes you think that IDF haven't been using something like that for years?

There have been US defense industry offerings of drones armed with twin-mount AA-12s in years past. I'm convinced that the main reasons the CIA and the DoD don't use them are because they require getting close enough for people to fight back with low-tech AA, and they don't cost six figures to shoot like a hellfire missile.

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lirvilas
4th Jun 2016, 8:06 AM

Ah, it's not the "armed" nature of drones that makes me shudder, it's the potential replacement of the usual friendly and courteous lance corporal kicking down your door at 2 am.

tbh it's the old American prejudice against terminators and cylons.

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anonymous coward
4th Jun 2016, 10:04 AM

Oh, well, MQ-9 reapers, bomb disposal robots and whatever the heck the IDF has that's too cheap for the American defense industry to sell is almost enough for personnel-free night raiding. I can't say I have too much sympathy for jackbooted thugs becoming unemployed.

On second thought, maybe I should have some more: We should learn the lesson of the Iraq invasion on what happens when professional thugs are left unemployed with nothing better to do.

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lirvilas
4th Jun 2016, 11:45 AM

"We should learn the lesson of the Iraq invasion on what happens when professional thugs are left unemployed with nothing better to do."

As the above statement could be misinterpreted, I'll throw this out there: I'm going to assume you're talking about the Baath Party/Iraqi military and the subsequent rise of ISIS.

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anonymous coward
8th Jun 2016, 5:35 AM

Oh, right, I suppose people could interpret that in other ways.
Man, that whole thing was a giant charlie foxtrot from start to finish.

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